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Excellent as usual.

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Ukrainians who don’t want to lose two entire generations of men in an unwinnable fight: “Maybe we should take whatever peace we can get. We put up a great fight.”

D.C. foreign policy goons who have never risked anything: “Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!”

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Washington doesn't even care what their own citizens want. Why would it care what Ukrainians want?

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Oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with their babies.

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Actually, per Klippenstein, Keith Kellogg looks like he IS the person to talk peace.

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"US is pushing Ukraine to extend the war instead of seeking a peaceful solution" - which one exactly? Bowing to kremlin terrorists and letting them wipe off Ukraine, what "peaceful solution" with terrorists? russia is continuing to occupy the territories of Ukraine, seeking to desroy all of Ukraine. Ukraine is a victim of aggression from a genocial maniac, since when it is Ukraine which has to seek "peaceful solution". Yes many Ukrainians want a ceasefire, but your polls (no idea hw trustworthy) don't specify that many Ukrainians understand that ceasefire without NATO membership, security guarantees, Western troops, it is just a permission to russia to restart the war in the future. Ukraine once signed the Minsk Agreements with russia, they learned from that mistake

"This war only started because the US decided to pump NATO arms into Ukraine....negotiated solution in the lead up to the war" - what a lying propaganda trying to cover up the genocide of Ukraine and russian imperialist ambitions

"Ukrainian negotiators were working on a draft agreement.." - this was not an "agreement", it was russia taking away Ukraine's sovereighty and territories, whoever dissauded Ukraine from not signing this capitulation which meant the destruction of Ukraine, was absoutely right. If Zelensky's government did sign, Ukrainians themselves would kick him out for doing it.

"Restrictions on tanks... Washington pursued a policy a continuing the war" - russia was the one who started this war, and russia is the one who wants to continue it, only russia wants to destroy Ukraine. And Ukraine has an absolute right to self-defence, including with weapons that whoever supports it in this fight for for existance.

"banned opposition parties" - all pro-russia parties are kremlin agents working on kremlin payroll, they should have been banned in 2014

"Zelenskyy has consolidated independent media networks" - this is not true, independent media exists in Ukraine, Zelensky just created one Telemaraphon, Ukraine has 61th place in the Worlrd Press Freedom Index, which is actually higher than at the start of war (Ukraine was in 106th in 2022)

"Zelenskyy has also refused to hold elections" - what elections during the war??? How you think you can hold elections in the country that in the war???

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You should click the links and you might learn something about each thing you brought up. I thought this platform encouraged people to do the actual reading.

As for the press freedom index, I have written about this.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/05/10/ukraines-press-freedom-score-increases-despite-martial-law-banned-media/

I think it's remarkable that your premise is that "yes Ukrainians want a ceasefire, but they're too ignorant to know what that means!" Thank you so much for your contribution

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"yes Ukrainians want a ceasefire, but they're too ignorant to know what that means!" - where did you see that I said that? Where did I say that Ukrainians don't understand what that means? I actually said the opposite.....

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Oh you're right I misread.

Still irrelevant as the draft treaty they that was abandoned included security guarantees, as would any solution with Ukraine in tact.

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I urge you to watch Alexander Mercuris's show from yesterday, 28 Nov, for excellent and "encouraging" analysis of Kellogg's report on the Ukraine War from last spring.

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